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  • [New post] Prahran – what happened?

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    by Ben Raue

    The Victorian Greens appear to have won a second seat in the Legislative Assembly after the distribution of preferences in Prahran last night. Prahran was the last seat to be decided in the lower house (although quite a lot of the races in the Legislative Council remain undecided), and pending a recount appears to have gone to the Greens.

    It’s always remarkable when the Greens win a single-member electorate. By my count, the Greens have only ever won two federal electorates and four state electorates, and only four of those six seats were won at general elections.

    But Prahran is all the more remarkable because the candidate in third place managed to win on preferences. This is very rare, but it has happened, mostly in cases involving both a Liberal and National running, or the DLP running. A bunch of examples were posted in comments on my previous post. The most recent examples include Blair in 1998, when the Liberal came third and defeated Pauline Hanson, and Denison in 2010, when Andrew Wilkie came third, overtook the Liberal Party on Greens preferences and then beat Labor on Liberal preferences. There was also the 2009 Frome by-election in South Australia where an independent won from third.

    When the news first broke yesterday, it was reported that the Greens had overtaken Labor by a 38-vote margin, and then appeared to have beaten the Liberal Party by a 128-vote margin. When the official VEC distribution was released, these numbers were revised upwards to 41 votes and 262 votes respectively.

    The Liberal-Green margin, while slim, should be solid enough to withstand a recount. A recount is beginning this morning, and Labor will be hoping to overturn that 41-vote margin at the point where Labor’s Neil Pharaoh was eliminated. That will be very tough, but not quite impossible.

    It’s also worth bearing in mind that the two-party-preferred vote (which in all cases is between Labor and the Coalition) still shows incumbent Liberal MP Clem Newton-Brown beating Pharaoh by 25 votes. This shows that the Greens benefited from stronger preference flows than Labor. Most of these preferences would have come from the other main progressive party, but the Greens also appear to have done slightly better from minor candidates, and this could partly explain them being in a stronger position in a head-to-head contest with the Liberal.

    If Labor somehow were to overturn the Greens’ 41-vote margin, this could, therefore, result in Newton-Brown winning. If Labor were to win by finding another batch of Labor votes not correctly counted, then that would result in their 2PP position improving and their party winning. But if Labor were to take the lead over the Greens by knocking out Greens votes (most of which would have flowed to Labor as preferences) then this would improve Newton-Brown’s position and give him the seat.

    So, how did the preference distribution work out?

    The following chart allows you to click through to each stage.

    http://cf.datawrapper.de/TEPdH/1/

    On primary votes, Labor led the Greens by 408 votes.

    First of all, preferences from the three independents and Family First were distributed. The Greens gained 28.6% of these preferences, Liberal 30.5%, Labor 21.55% and Animal Justice 19.3%. In raw numbers, this narrowed Labor’s lead over the Greens by 60 votes, from 408 to 348.

    Then Animal Justice was excluded. 57.8% of their preferences flowed to the Greens, with 23.4% flowing to the Liberal and 18.8% to Labor. In raw numbers, the Greens gained 389 more preferences than Labor, and this overturned Labor’s 348-vote lead and gave the Greens a 41-vote lead.

    Following this turnaround, Labor’s 9,950 preferences were distributed. The Greens needed about 85.7% of these preferences to win, and they gained just over 87%. The Greens won 8,659 Labor preferences and the Liberal Party won only 1,291 preferences.

    And that’s how they did it.

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    Neville,
    Moments ago Tony Abbott said his GP Tax was dead.

    But it isn’t the backdown we wanted – it’s just a GP Tax through the backdoor.

    They are doing exactly the same thing they did with the Petrol Tax – sneaking it around the Parliament, to try to destroy Medicare and make healthcare unaffordable in this country.

    Labor will protect Medicare. We built it and we won’t let Tony Abbott destroy it. We are going to protect ordinary Australian families from this Government’s dishonest attempts to stand between them and a trip to their doctor when they need medical attention.

    Can you share this graphic and say you’ll stand with Labor in this fight? If you don’t have Facebook, forward this email onto a friend or post it on Twitter.

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    This move is just a desperate Prime Minister under pressure. You and I have been building pressure on Tony Abbott for months and now he’s doing anything to save his own skin. He isn’t protecting Medicare – he’s just trying to protect himself.

    He may have changed his talking points, but he hasn’t changed his mind.

    Together, we can defend our universal healthcare system.

    Labor introduced Medibank under Gough Whitlam, and Fraser ditched it. We came back with Medicare in 1984 and no matter what Tony Abbott does we will not stop fighting for Medicare, and we will save it.

    Thanks for standing with me on this,

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    The Victorian Electoral Commission has been distributed preferences in Prahran today to determine which of the two progressive parties will be pitted against the Liberal Party for the final seat.

    The VEC has just completed distributing preferences from the fourth-placed Animal Justice Party producing the following result:

    • 17,097 – Clem Newton Brown (LIB)
    • 9,991 – Sam Hibbins (GRN)
    • 9,953 – Neil Pharoah (ALP)

    On these numbers, there will surely need to be some kind of recount, but we will also now be waiting for some kind of distribution of preferences between Hibbins and Newton-Brown to work out if the Greens can gain enough preferences to win.

    Hibbins will need to gain 85.7% of Labor preferences (including votes from minor candidates that flowed to Labor) to win the seat. That’s a very high proportion, but it is possible.

    Either way, it seems likely that the final Liberal-vs-Green count will be tight, and may trigger some kind of recount, as will the narrowness of the count between Hibbins and Pharoah. This race will drag on for a number of days.

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    The great political question of our age is what to do about corporate power. It’s time we answered it.
    By George Monbiot, published in the Guardian 8th December 2014

    Does this sometimes feel like a country under enemy occupation? Do you wonder why the demands of so much of the electorate seldom translate into policy? Why the Labour Party, like other former parties of the left, seems incapable of offering effective opposition to market fundamentalism, let alone proposing coherent alternatives? Do you wonder why those who want a kind and decent and just world, in which both human beings and other living creatures are protected, so often appear to find themselves confronting the entire political establishment?

    If so, you have already encountered corporate power. It is the corrupting influence that prevents parties from connecting with the public, distorts spending and tax decisions and limits the scope of democracy. It helps to explain the otherwise inexplicable: the creeping privatisation of health and education, hated by almost all voters; the private finance initiative, which has left public services with unpayable debts(1,2); the replacement of the civil service with companies distinguished only by their incompetence(3); the failure to re-regulate the banks and to collect tax; the war on the natural world; the scrapping of the safeguards that protect us from exploitation; above all the severe limitation of political choice in a nation crying out for alternatives.

    There are many ways in which it operates, but perhaps the most obvious is through our unreformed political funding system, which permits big business and multimillionaires effectively to buy political parties. Once a party is obliged to them, it needs little reminder of where its interests lie. Fear and favour rule.

    And if they fail? Well, there are other means. Before the last election, a radical firebrand said this about the lobbying industry(4): “It is the next big scandal waiting to happen … an issue that exposes the far-too-cosy relationship between politics, government, business and money. … secret corporate lobbying, like the expenses scandal, goes to the heart of why people are so fed up with politics.” That, of course, was David Cameron, and he’s since ensured that the scandal continues. His lobbying act restricts the activities of charities and trade unions, but imposes no meaningful restraint on corporations(5).

    Ministers and civil servants know that if they keep faith with corporations while in office they will be assured of lucrative directorships in retirement. Dave Hartnett, who, as head of the government’s tax collection agency HMRC, oversaw some highly controversial deals with companies like Vodafone and Goldman Sachs(6,7), apparently excusing them from much of the tax they seemed to owe, now works for Deloitte, which advises companies like Vodafone on their tax affairs(8). As head of HMRC he met one Deloitte partner 48 times(9).

    Corporations have also been empowered by the globalisation of decision-making. As powers but not representation shift to the global level, multinational business and its lobbyists fill the political gap. When everything has been globalised except our consent, we are vulnerable to decisions made outside the democratic sphere.

    The key political question of our age, by which you can judge the intent of all political parties, is what to do about corporate power. This is the question, perennially neglected within both politics and the media, that this week’s series of articles will attempt to address. I think there are some obvious first steps.

    A sound political funding system would be based on membership fees. Each party would be able to charge the same fixed fee for annual membership (perhaps £30 or £50). It would receive matching funding from the state as a multiple of its membership receipts. No other sources of income would be permitted. As well as getting the dirty money out of politics, this would force political parties to reconnect with the people, to raise their membership. It will cost less than the money wasted on corporate welfare every day.

    All lobbying should be transparent. Any meeting between those who are paid to influence opinion (this could include political commentators like myself) and ministers, advisers or civil servants in government should be recorded, and the transcript made publicly available. The corporate lobby groups that pose as thinktanks should be obliged to reveal who funds them before appearing on the broadcast media(10,11), and if the identity of one of their funders is relevant to the issue they are discussing, it should be mentioned on air.

    Any company supplying public services would be subject to freedom of information laws (there would be an exception for matters deemed commercially confidential by the information commissioner). Gagging contracts would be made illegal, in the private as well as the public sector (with the same exemption for commercial confidentiality). Ministers and top officials should be forbidden from taking jobs in the sectors they were charged with regulating.

    But we should also think of digging deeper. Is it not time we reviewed the remarkable gift we have granted to companies in the form of limited liability? It socialises the risks which would otherwise be carried by a company’s owners and directors, exempting them from the costs of the debts they incur or the disasters they cause, and encouraging them to engage in the kind of reckless behaviour that caused the financial crisis. Should the wealthy authors of the crisis, like Fred Goodwin or Matt Ridley, not have incurred a financial penalty of their own?

    We should look at how we might democratise the undemocratic institutions of global governance, as I outlined in my book The Age of Consent(12). This could involve the dismantling of the World Bank and the IMF, which are governed without a semblance of democracy, and cause more crises than they solve, and their replacement with a body rather like the international clearing union designed by John Maynard Keynes in the 1940s, whose purpose was to prevent excessive trade surpluses and deficits from forming, and therefore international debt from accumulating.

    Instead of treaties brokered in opaque meetings between diplomats and transnational capital (of the kind now working towards a Transatlantic Trade and Investment partnership), which threaten democracy, the sovereignty of parliaments and the principle of equality before the law, we should demand a set of global fair trade rules, to which multinational companies would be subject, losing their licence to trade if they break them. Above all perhaps, we need a directly elected world parliament, whose purpose would be to hold other global bodies to account. In other words, instead of only responding to an agenda set by corporations, we must propose an agenda of our own.

    This is not only about politicians, it is also about us. Corporate power has shut down our imagination, persuading us that there is no alternative to market fundamentalism, and that “market” is a reasonable description of a state-endorsed corporate oligarchy. We have been persuaded that we have power only as consumers, that citizenship is an anachronism, that changing the world is either impossible or best effected by buying a different brand of biscuits.

    Corporate power now lives within us. Confronting it means shaking off the manacles it has imposed on our minds.

    www.monbiot.com

    References:

    1. http://www.dropnhsdebt.org.uk/

    2. http://www.monbiot.com/2010/11/22/the-uks-odious-debts/

    3. http://www.monbiot.com/2014/05/05/land-of-impunity-2/

    4. https://tompride.wordpress.com/2014/10/13/lobbying-camerons-deleted-speech-and-his-jaw-dropping-hypocrisy/

    5. http://www.lobbyingtransparency.org/

    6. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2010/oct/22/vodafone-tax-case-leaves-sour-taste

    7. http://www.theguardian.com/business/2011/oct/11/goldman-sachs-interest-tax-avoidance

    8. http://www.theguardian.com/business/2013/may/27/deloitte-appoints-dave-hartnett-tax

    9. http://www.theguardian.com/business/2013/may/27/deloitte-appoints-dave-hartnett-tax

    10. http://www.monbiot.com/2013/11/29/hidden-interests/

    11. http://www.monbiot.com/2011/10/17/show-me-the-money/

    12. http://www.monbiot.com/books/the-age-of-consent/

  • How the IPCC Underestimated Climate Change


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    How the IPCC Underestimated Climate Change
    Here are just eight examples of where the IPCC missed predictions
    December 6, 2012 |By Glenn Scherer and DailyClimate.org
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    Scientists will tell you: There are no perfect computer models. All are incomplete representations of nature, with uncertainty built into them. But one thing is certain: Several fundamental projections found in Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change reports have consistently underestimated real-world observations, potentially leaving world governments at doubt as to how to guide climate policy.

    Emissions
    At the heart of all IPCC projections are “emission scenarios:” low-, mid-, and high-range estimates for future carbon emissions. From these “what if” estimates flow projections for temperature, sea-rise, and more.

    Projection: In 2001, the IPCC offered a range of fossil fuel and industrial emissions trends, from a best-case scenario of 7.7 billion tons of carbon released each year by 2010 to a worst-case scenario of 9.7 billion tons.

    Reality: In 2010, global emissions from fossil fuels alone totaled 9.1 billion tons of carbon, according to federal government’s Earth Systems Research Laboratory.

    Why the miss? While technically within the range, scientists never expected emissions to rise so high so quickly, said IPCC scientist Christopher Fields. The IPCC, for instance, failed to anticipate China’s economic growth, or resistance by the United States and other nations to curbing greenhouse gases.

    “We really haven’t explored a world in which the emissions growth rate is as rapid as we have actually seen happen,” Fields said.

    Temperature
    IPCC models use the emission scenarios discussed above to estimate average global temperature increases by the year 2100.

    Projection: The IPCC 2007 assessment projected a worst-case temperature rise of 4.3° to 11.5° Fahrenheit, with a high probability of 7.2°F.

    Reality: We are currently on track for a rise of between 6.3° and 13.3°F, with a high probability of an increase of 9.4°F by 2100, according to the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Other modelers are getting similar results, including a study published earlier this month by the Global Carbon Project consortium confirming the likelihood of a 9ºF rise.

    Why the miss? IPCC emission scenarios seriously underestimated global CO2 emission rates, which means temperature rates were underestimated too. And it could get worse: IPCC projections haven’t included likely feedbacks such as large-scale melting of Arctic permafrost and subsequent release of large quantities of CO2 and methane, a greenhouse gas 20 times more potent, albeit shorter lived, in the atmosphere than carbon dioxide.

    Arctic Meltdown
    Five years ago, the summer retreat of Arctic ice wildly outdistanced all 18 IPCC computer models, amazing IPCC scientists. It did so again in 2012.

    Projection: The IPCC has always confidently projected that the Arctic ice sheet was safe at least until 2050 or well beyond 2100.

    Reality: Summer ice is thinning faster than every climate projection, and today scientists predict an ice-free Arctic in years, not decades. Last summer, Arctic sea ice extent plummeted to 1.32 million square miles, the lowest level ever recorded – 50 percent below the long-term 1979 to 2000 average.

    Why the miss? For scientists, it is increasingly clear that the models are under-predicting the rate of sea ice retreat because they are missing key real-world interactions.

    “Sea ice modelers have speculated that the 2007 minimum was an aberration… a matter of random variability, noise in the system, that sea ice would recover.… That no longer looks tenable,” says IPCC scientist Michael Mann. “It is a stunning reminder that uncertainty doesn’t always act in our favor.”

    Ice Sheets
    Greenland and Antarctica are melting, even though IPCC said in 1995 that they wouldn’t be.

    Projection: In 1995, IPCC projected “little change in the extent of the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets… over the next 50-100 years.” In 2007 IPCC embraced a drastic revision: “New data… show[s] that losses from the ice sheets of Greenland and Antarctica have very likely contributed to sea level rise over 1993 to 2003.”

    Reality: Today, ice loss in Greenland and Antarctica is trending at least 100 years ahead of projections compared to IPCC’s first three reports.

    Why the miss? “After 2001, we began to realize there were complex dynamics at work – ice cracks, lubrication and sliding of ice sheets,” that were melting ice sheets quicker, said IPCC scientist Kevin Trenberth. New feedbacks unknown to past IPCC authors have also been found. A 2012 study, for example, showed that the reflectivity of Greenland’s ice sheet is decreasing, causing ice to absorb more heat, likely escalating melting.

    Sea-Level Rise
    The fate of the world’s coastlines has become a classic example of how the IPCC, when confronted with conflicting science, tends to go silent.

    Projection: In the 2001 report, the IPCC projected a sea rise of 2 millimeters per year. The worst-case scenario in the 2007 report, which looked mostly at thermal expansion of the oceans as temperatures warmed, called for up to 1.9 feet of sea-level-rise by century’s end.

    Today: Observed sea-level-rise has averaged 3.3 millimeters per year since 1990. By 2009, various studies that included ice-melt offered drastically higher projections of between 2.4 and 6.2 feet sea level rise by 2100.

    Why the miss? IPCC scientists couldn’t agree on a value for the contribution melting Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets would add to sea-level rise. So they simply left out the data to reach consensus. Science historian Naomi Oreskes calls this – one of IPCC’s biggest underestimates – “consensus by omission.”

    Ocean Acidification
    To its credit, the IPCC admits to vast climate change unknowns. Ocean acidification is one such impact.

    Projection: Unmentioned as a threat in the 1990, 1995 and 2001 IPCC reports. First recognized in 2007, when IPCC projected acidification of between 0.14 and 0.35 pH units by 2100. “While the effects of observed ocean acidification on the marine biosphere are as yet undocumented,” said the report, “the progressive acidification of oceans is expected to have negative impacts on marine shell-forming organisms (e.g. corals) and their dependent species.”

    Reality: The world’s oceans absorb about a quarter of the carbon dioxide humans release annually into the atmosphere. Since the start of the Industrial Revolution, the pH of surface ocean waters has fallen by 0.1 pH units. Since the pH scale is logarithmic, this change represents a stunning 30 percent increase in acidity.

    Why the miss? Scientists didn’t have the data. They began studying acidification by the late 1990s, but there weren’t many papers on the topic until mid-2000, missing the submission deadline for IPCC’s 2001 report. Especially alarming are new findings that ocean temperatures and currents are causing parts of the seas to become acidic far faster than expected, threatening oysters and other shellfish.

    National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration chief Jane Lubchenco has called acidification the “equally evil twin” to global warming.

    Thawing Tundra
    Some carbon-cycle feedbacks that could vastly amplify climate change – especially a massive release of carbon and methane from thawing permafrost – are extremely hard to model.

    Projection: In 2007, IPCC reported with “high confidence” that “methane emissions from tundra… and permafrost have accelerated in the past two decades, and are likely to accelerate further.” However, the IPCC offered no projections regarding permafrost melt.

    Reality: Scientists estimate that the world’s permafrost holds 1.5 trillion tons of frozen carbon. That worries scientists: The Arctic is warming faster than anywhere else on earth, and researchers are seeing soil temperatures climb rapidly, too. Some permafrost degradation is already occurring.

    Large-scale tundra wildfires in 2012 added to the concern.

    Why the miss? This is controversial science, with some researchers saying the Arctic tundra is stable, others saying it will defrost only over long periods of time, and still more convinced we are on the verge of a tipping point, where the tundra thaws rapidly and catastrophically. A major 2005 study, for instance, warned that the entire top 11 feet of global permafrost could disappear by century’s end, with potentially cataclysmic climate impacts.

    The U.N. Environmental Programme revealed this week that IPCC’s fifth assessment, due for release starting in September, 2013, will again “not include the potential effects of the permafrost carbon feedback on global climate.”

    Tipping points
    The IPCC has been silent on tipping points – non-linear “light switch” moments when the climate system abruptly shifts from one paradigm to another.

    Projection: IPCC has made no projections regarding tipping-point thresholds.

    Reality: The scientific jury is still out as to whether we have reached any climate thresholds – a point of no return for, say, an ice-free Arctic, a Greenland meltdown, the slowing of the North Atlantic Ocean circulation, or permanent changes in large-scale weather patterns like the jet stream, El Niño or monsoons. The trouble with tipping points is they’re hard to spot until you’ve passed one.

    Why the miss? Blame the computers: These non-linear events are notoriously hard to model. But with scientists recognizing the sizeable threat tipping points represent, they will be including some projections in the 2013-14 assessment.

    This article originally appeared at The Daily Climate, the climate change news source published by Environmental Health Sciences, a nonprofit media company.
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    Sisko December 6, 2012, 1:22 PM

    The writer of this article; Glenn Scherer, seems to promote the spreading of inaccurate propaganda and untrue statements which seems typical of this publication. He writes “scientists believe” vs. accurately writing that some individual person or scientist believes without acknowledging that there are many, many other scientists who view the situation differently.

    Let’s review some of the claims in this propaganda piece by Scherer

    He wrote- “The IPCC’s overly conservative reading of the science, they say, means governments and the public could be blindsided by the rapid onset of the flooding, extreme storms, drought, and other impacts associated with catastrophic global warming.”

    My response- Idiots try to claim that any recent bad weather has been caused by cAGW but when you look at the actual long term data trends you find that there is not any significant change from the long term data. Notice how Scherer did not post the link to any data that supported the claimed increase in flooding, extreme storms, drought, etc. in any particular area.

    He wrote: “Sea-level rise is another. In its 2001 report, the IPCC predicted an annual sea-level rise of less than 2 millimeters per year. But from 1993 through 2006, the oceans actually rose 3.3 millimeters per year, more than 50 percent above that projection.”

    My response- We have had measurements of sea level rise since late 1992 and that data has shown a consistent rate of rise of about 3mm per year. It has not increased in the entire time we have had reasonably accurate measurements. The rate of rise will have to more than double to reach the lower end of the IPCC predicted rise of approximately .6 meters by 2100. There being ZERO evidence of a change in the rate of rise from the non threatening 1 foot per century rate we are seeing.

    He wrote- “In November, scientists at the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colo., took a closer look at the computer models underpinning most climate predictions and concluded future warming is likely to be on the high side of climate projections.”

    My response- This one is the spreading of untruth. The fact is that the computer models the IPCC used have overstated the rate of temperature rise and not understated it has been reported. I have attached the link to the actual analysis. http://rankexploits.com/musings/2012/trends-relative-to-models/
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    Cramer Sisko December 6, 2012, 2:46 PM

    Sisko,

    Most “scientists believe” your statements are “inaccurate propaganda and untrue statements.” Everything you said has been debunked numerous times on this site and elsewhere.

    Regardless of one’s belief of the relative accuracy of satellite observations versus tide gauges, sea level rise was not anywhere close to 3.3 mm/yr over the 19th and 20th centuries. You seem to believe it was, which then allows you to believe there is no acceleration. Tide gauges have also showed the same acceleration.

    The premise is that IPCC projected less 2 mm/yr in 2001 and it was underestimated. Are you claiming this was NOT an underestimate?
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    Cramer Sisko December 6, 2012, 2:52 PM

    Sisko is always in error because he cherry-picks.

    When there’s an article/comment about long-term temperature and sea level TRENDS focusing on projections to the year 2100 AD, he only concentrates on volatile short-term data for the last ten years.

    When there’s an article/comment about increased VOLATILITY of observed short-term data, Sisko closes his eyes to that volatility and only looks at long term trends (100 year datasets of rainfall in Nebraska and Colorado to claim droughts are not out of the ordinary).
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    Sisko Cramer December 6, 2012, 3:22 PM

    Cramer

    You just do not like to admit when you are wrong, but you should be used to it since it has been shown so frequently.

    I have made no claims about sea level pre 1992 when accurate measurement have been available. Since that time is has been rising at a pretty steady rate that would have to double to meet the IPCC forecast. You on the other hand seem to rely upon what I believe you know are very poor records of sea level prior to our having data from satellites to measure seal level worldwide.

    Please Cramer, attempt to show ANY of the propaganda written by Scherer to be accurate. Show where there has been an unusual drought trend somewhere unprecedented historically. You seem to like to claim bad things are happening without evidence to support the claim. (kind of like your and the author of this propaganda do on sea level change.
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    criordon December 6, 2012, 3:46 PM

    “Reality: In 2011, Global emissions totaled 31.6 billion tons of carbon, according to the International Energy Agency, exceeding IPCC’s worst-case scenario 88 years ahead of schedule.”

    Sorry, but this is fiction, not fact. Scherer has made a fundamental error here, of the type not generally found in SciAm articles. He has confused ‘carbon’ with ‘carbon dioxide’. Perhaps a basic course in chemistry might be in order for this writer before he attempts any more articles of this type. The amount of carbon contained in 31.6 GT of CO2 is less than 40% of the mass of the CO2 in question in this paragraph, or just under 12 GT of carbon. The figures cited by Mr. Scherer are for the annual human contribution of CO2 to the atmosphere, not that of carbon.

    As for the rest of the article, it is passable, but repeats what we who have been reading science regularly have known for many years now, that our combustion of fossil fuels is changing the planet’s atmosphere and warming the world. This has been evident since the 1980s or earlier. However, as evidenced by some of the seemingly disbelieving comments before mine, this repetition of seemingly basic facts will likely be necessary for some time to come, as some people would rather attempt make up their own reality than accept the one revealed by scientific research.

    So, keep on repeating the message until it sinks in, but please, try to get the facts right. If you don’t do the fact checking, someone else like me will do it, and it always looks better if you get it right the first time.
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    criordon December 6, 2012, 4:06 PM

    Just a quick comment to Sisko and Cramer on the sea-level rise issue. Keep in mind that the RATE of rise is increasing or accelerating, not constant, and this will account for the predicted rise in sea levels forecast by the IPCC. Naturally, there are still many unknowns in the details, but the main trends are apparent, and the models converge on the range of estimates provided, unless new and previously unconsidered factors come to light (which is not impossible).

    We would be wise to note that so far, these unknowns have generally proven that our case is worse than we originally estimated, not better, a trend which may continue however much we wish otherwise, as we push research further. Ice requires huge quantities of energy to melt, but once it is melted, then the temperature of the water starts to increase, which in turn melts the ice faster, etc.

    One thing many people fail to understand in this phenomenon is the huge systemic inertia which must initially be overcome before there are clearly measurable changes – I think we can now say that the initial inertia is overcome, and the warming process is in motion. It is important to realize that the process will not stop if we stop emitting fossil CO2, but gradually slow down (i.e warming will continue, but at a gradually decreasing rate until equilibrium is reached again) over a period of decades or centuries, and I see no serious signs that we will stop emitting fossil CO2 any time soon.
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    Cramer Sisko December 6, 2012, 4:07 PM

    Sisko,

    You have already confirmed that sea level has been rising by at least 3 mm/yr since the early 1990s. You have also said there is no proof of acceleration. Please provide evidence that sea level was rising at a rate of 3 mm/yr in the 19th and 20th centuries. When 100 years projections are being made, you might want to consider more data than just 20 years of data.

    You are the one claiming that Glen Scherer is wrong (not only that but you seem to be calling him a liar). He has provided plenty of details and references. You have provided nothing but misframed arguments, anecdotes, gut feelings, and an analysis of only ten years of data at rankexploits.com. The onus is one you to provide the evidence that he is wrong, especially after such libelous statements (which says something about your level of scientific expertise).

    It is simple: show us that IPCC did not make the projections Scherer claims they made in their 1990, 1995, 2001, and 2007 IPCC reports. And/or show us that the new observations are wrong.

    For example:

    1. “In the 2001 report, the IPCC projected a sea rise of 2 millimeters per year. … Observed sea-level-rise has averaged 3.3 millimeters per year since 1990.”

    Either prove that this was not in the 2001 report and/or prove that sea level is not currently rising faster than 2 mm/yr. You already agreed it’s been rising at 3 mm/yr, so I can only guess you believe the 2 mm/yr projection was not in the 2001 IPCC report.

    2. In the 2001 report IPCC projected CO2 emissions of 8 to 30 billion tons/yr by 2100. CO2 emissions in 2011 were 31.6 billion tons.

    Prove any of these numbers wrong.

    And I could continue, but I am hoping that you might now understand how to properly refute the claims you say are not true.
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    PTGoodman Sisko December 6, 2012, 4:09 PM

    Sisko,

    There is absolutely no way of getting through to people like you–believe me, I’ve tried. So we try to make progress w/o you.
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    Cramer criordon December 6, 2012, 4:13 PM

    criordon,

    Sisko has said many times that there is zero proof the acceleration of sea level rise. Not I.

    Please address your statements to him (and please use the reply button).
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    pabelmont December 6, 2012, 4:27 PM

    A very lively discussion. How many of the writers believe that there will be a lively discussion of this issue (or of anything much) in, say, 2050?

    I know, the models say nothing about the frequency and duration of discussions.
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