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THEY can’t legally buy liquor but 16-year-olds could serve alcohol in restaurant bars and dining areas to overcome staff shortages, under controversial proposed changes.
The NSW Restaurant and Catering Association (R & CA), which represents 11,500 venues, wants the State Government to follow Queesland’s lead and allow minors to serve alcoholic drinks.
The association’s chief executive officer John Hart said the move would help restaurant and bar owners desperate for extra staff.
“So long as a Responsible Service of Alcohol (RSA) course has been completed, junior staff – 16 or someone in Year 11 or 12 – should be allowed to serve booze,” he said.
“At the moment, you’ve got a situation where someone orders a beer and a burger and junior staff can only serve the burger and has to get someone else to serve the beer.”
Under the existing laws, staff must be 18 before they can serve alcohol.
The association’s proposal is among scores of submissions put to the NSW Government as part of its annual five-year review of the liquor laws.
Crescent Head Tavern director Darren Gunn struggles to find staff to work at his venue in the small mid-north coast town.
Editorial: Kids and booze not a good mix
He wants 15-year-olds trained in bar work to help meet the gaps in staff.
“I currently have trained up to at least 10, 15-year-olds in the food and restaurant over the past two and a half years, but they cannot be trained in bar work,” he said.
“And when they turn 18, most of them leave town as there is no full time work in Crescent Head because of the seasonal activity of the town or they end up going to uni.”
Brooke Mozeley, 17, who has been working at the Crescent Head Tavern three nights a week and during school holidays since she was 15, said it was frustrating not being able to serve alcohol.
“People will call out and ask to be served and I have to tell them that I can’t,” she said.
“It would be easier if we could serve drinks as well.”
Community groups also want the State government to loosen the liquor laws to allow workers in restaurant, bars and other community venues to be allowed to have a drink on the premises after work
The existing law bans so called “staffies”, whereby employees can drink liquor in a bar area outside trading hours.
Davidson Volunteer Rural Fire Brigade Captain Trent Dowling said the provision of beer to volunteer fires was crucial to keep up memberships.
“While it is possible to ban all consumption on the premises, this would have a very detrimental
effect on the membership of the brigade,” he said.
“Most community groups supply alcohol to their members as a means of social interaction, so
they are therefore unaware of the current regulations or ignoring them as simply unworkable.”
The Railway Hotel in Muswellbrook also wants to be able to allow staff to have a drink after work.
“I would have thought that the original purpose of the law was to stop people trading after hours but the way it is written, it stops a custom that has been part of our industry for as long as it has existed,” it said.
Willoughby City Council criticised the existing laws for being too soft on problem venues.
It wants the three-strike scheme to include licence revocation or suspension after five misdemeanours.
“Council recommends that the legislation be amended to revise the scheduling process so
that any premises with more than five incidents of violent or anti-social behaviour should
have their licence either revoked or suspended for an extended period,” it said.
Clubs NSW was critical of the focus on pubs and clubs wants tougher action on drinkers who break the law, such as on-the-spot fines for drunkenness.
“People don’t king-hit others on the street just because they’re drunk. They do
it because they believe that kind of violence is acceptable and they have no respect for other people or regard for the consequences of their actions.
The Government is due to table its report into the review in December.
PROPOSED CHANGES LIQUOR LAWS
• Venue licences revoked after five violent incidents
• Lower age of bar staff to at least 16
• After-work drinks for staff
• Ban patrons from “stockpiling” drinks
• “Water bars” and “chill out rooms” at venues




Children pose for a camera in the Erasmia township, Johannesburg, South Africa













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Guest
Today 03:58 AM
Me blokes,
Wud I’d a like ta say, I kant say, bekuss it wudna be politicully correct.
wasexpat
Today 03:09 AM
What a sad article.
treebrain
Today 01:56 AM
Well surely the UK will benefit if many are allowed to come here, after all mass immigration and a multi-cultural society are good things, are they not?
rightrightright
Today 01:17 AM
The sub Saharan countries named are either Muslim or contain large Muslim contingents. Bad news.
dunroamin
Yesterday 10:38 PM
How many of them will fit on Lampedusa?
edlancey
Yesterday 10:09 PM
Thanks Bill Gates – crap, overpriced software, and another billion Africans.
arthurmo
Yesterday 05:24 PM
We really should pour more aid into Africa so they can treble their population by 2050, come on everybody, give em your fxxking money!!!!! I’m organizing a coach trip for 50 people to go and dig wells for them and sow seeds because they don’t know how to dig holes other than shallow ones to put their murdered non Muslim enemies in!!
jcw0213
Yesterday 04:56 PM
And 1 billion of them will be starving, wow great prospects.
kicks
Yesterday 04:04 PM
Wow, I guess I will crack open a bottle of water and celebrate, twice as many mouths to feed, guess we better get busy.
loosecarrots
Yesterday 03:15 PM
We should never have given them money in the first place. I hate this practice of sending aid to countries. It’s stupid and short sighted. All it does is enable dysfunctional situations to thrive, when they should be nipped in the bud by “Darwinian” (for lack of a better concept) factors. It should be “survival of the fittest” but because of foreign aid, it’s survival of the weakest and then they procreate like rabbits and have no foundations to support all these parasites.
They would be a strong country if it weren’t for the intrusion of foreign governments’ aid money.
Another thing: what countries send us aid when we have disasters? Anybody?
Umoth
Yesterday 02:35 PM
We in the UK are bombarded daily with letters & TV-adverts from numerous charities asking for donations to help the starving/sick/thirsty in Africa.
It now becomes clear why the problem continues…
An advert from one charity…
“Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. Teach him to fish, and you feed him for life.”
REALITY.
“Teach a man to fish, but do not teach him how to use contraceptives or convince him to use them, and you will have shown him how to have 10 children. His kids will have 10 kids, and they will eat all the fish, and you now have 100 hungry men and no fish.”
Some parts of the world are marginal for supporting large numbers of humans. The best solution is to teach him to farm fish, and then he might be lucky and grow enough fish to feed 2 kids. A sustainable human population living from a long term sustainable food source.
oldgit13
Yesterday 04:00 PM
Indeed, I do wonder from the letters from my water compnay just how long it will be before some people learn how to dig a f*cking well without my having to help pay for it.
CrushedGrape
Yesterday 01:24 PM
Hooray, I’m thrilled the African Continent is going to take over from us lazy selfish ‘Westerners.’ They will become the leading nations again while we disappear into oblivion, and good riddance to us, I say….
oldgit13
Yesterday 01:24 PM
We’ve been told for years that increased population = increased GDP and economic growth, hence the insane support for immigration in some circles.
The addition of the simple words “per capita” to GDP shows up the fallacy of this argument.
India’s population growth has been massive – more than doubled since 1947, yet there are more poor in India than in the whole of sub-Saharan Africa. The Indian government has just launched a programme to provide emergency food aid to two-thirds of the population. They still breed like rabbits though, so not much hope for improvement there.
Africa will go the same way. More than half the population of Nigeria is under 20 years old and other countries have similar figures.
Foreign aid to Africa and Asia is like standing in the bilge of the Titanic stuffing £20 notes in the hole. Utterly pointless.
These people are all grown-ups and they must be allowed to run their countries the way they want. Our role should be to ensure that charity begins at home and that our border controls are sufficiently robust that they all stay where they were born – or at least, don’t come here.
loosecarrots
Yesterday 03:18 PM
Amen.
Alex
Yesterday 01:00 PM
The Chinese found a way to counteract their huge population, Despite the huge growth they still struggle today and for the foreseeable future.
Will Africans be prepared to go down the same path? Will they abide by the state’s dictate or improve their productivity by millions of percent or will we allow them the cheap electricity and clean power that they nee? Will they adopt the same work ethics?
Forget the aid, which will do nothing to secure prosperity. Africa needs to understand that with the doubling the population there comes a price. Will they pay it?
loosecarrots
Yesterday 03:16 PM
Answer: no.
John Mark
Yesterday 12:40 PM
So, the prediction is that the world’s population will increase by 37% in the next 37 years.
It makes you into a Malthusian economist, where population rise is exponential but food increase is linear.
At some point in time, the exponential leaves the linear far behind, and people starve.
Farmers and optimists still say that we can produce more food than you think with the spread of westernised industrial farming throughout Africa.
Yes, OK! But if they won’t use contraception enough, and the elderly live longer and longer, and the people eat more and more meat than in the past, you farmers are going to give up on your optimism one day.
It makes you Malthusian in regard to charitable giving. The population growth is exponential but the charitable giving is, at best, linear.
If international currencies do collapse in value well before 2050, then aid will cease or, at least, the currencies will be so debased in value that they will buy very little for this exponentially increasing world population.
I have this fear that something catastrophic will happen, and that this will reduce global population to a level at which those, who are still alive, will be free of debt.
If so, perhaps, the population will be no more than 2 billion.
I am so, so pessimistic for the human race. It’s oppressive sometimes!
Guest
Yesterday 12:32 PM
trevorscott
Yesterday 04:11 PM
I hope you reflect upon your remark and feel ashamed.
manwhosees
Yesterday 04:24 PM
See what you gone done did ? Don’t you feel ashamed ?
trevorscott
Yesterday 04:52 PM
“See what you gone done did ? Don’t you feel ashamed ?”
I haven’t “gone done did” anything other than make my thoughts known, in words using reasonable grammar, so no I don’t feel ashamed.
3spartan
Yesterday 12:27 PM
Nature kept things in balance for aeons, then along come the scientists. Each generation of them solving the problems created by the solutions of their forebears.